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From my friend Tracker over at David Icke's forum with his permission... a great read! JP

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=89612
How fellow humans; concerned parents and folk alike.

I am approaching you today from a different angle and hope that by the end of today you would have enjoyed reading this thread and gained some precious knowledge concerning you and your children's happiness , health and well being .
What Im going to talk about today is a subject you hardly ever hear of unless it comes with stigma , bias views and predudism which can make presenting this subject a challenge in it self .

I am going to make this as humble as possible due to past reactions from prejudice people who have called and accused me of many things and I have endeavoured to look upon my works with the best of intentions and have considered some of those comments thrown at me to attempt to make this particular subject easy to read , a pleasure to digest and palatable enough to fill you with a desire to gain more information regarding the ideas you are about to see .
With that in mind I now set my self in motion and hope you enjoy your experience reading this thread .


The Loving concerned parent .

Hello fellow dudes and dudettes guardians of the small peoples ( children ) well being and happiness .
As a father of a two beautiful and happy children I find my self from time to time questioning my ability as a good parent . It is a natural thing to do and quite healthy one at that , as ---------if we are unable to question our ability ----------how would we be able to safely asses our children's well being and happiness ? we simply couldn't do that with out a bias opinion if we did not ask that question to our self , so if you have asked that now and again -------- your one of the best parents out there because you have an all round concern and view point regarding your main priority = your child's health etc .

Like most parents - I think about Winter cloths , how long they are in the cold , and why not ? like most parents I have the same problem my own parents had with me .
My 15 year old son loves winter in his trainers and "T" shirts or thin designer tops .
So you can bet your bottom dollar I am on his case about it trying to get him to wear trainer boots and a warm top .
Just when you think you've got it mastered , another one of my children ( my daughter ) wants to play out in the middle of winter with a "snow white" fancy dress and sandals .
You know ---------don't ya ? lol.

small things besides I find my self considering thousands of factors every week .

Some of those small things are
What shall I get for the shopping list this week ?
What clothes do they need before the end of the week ?
What shall I cook them tonight ?
what about tomorrows dinner ?

things like ,
test the smoke alarm ,
do we have a fire plan ?
got to take my car to the garage to make sure it runs safe ------don't want to have an accident especially if the kids are in the car .
Got to fill in that hole in the garden don't want an accident .
that roof slate looks dangerous .
got to call out the council because that safety window lock has broken .
got to get lights for the kids bike .
must get them a helmet .

and then there is every day chat with the kids .
Where are you going ?
how late ?
who you with ?
how much ?

kids kids kids , ya got to lovem , they certainly keep us on our toes don't they . ( no its not a question lol ) .

Then there are the small unexpected situations that we have to take care of from time to time . You know ? The ones that really are an inconvenient pain in the backside .
Washing machine breaks down ; cooker hood blows , freezer breaks and the car needs an MOT .--------- Damned life , but we take it all in our stride like the tough going take it all in our stride folks we are .

So there we are , cooking away at our Sunday roast and suddenly the electricity fails . I can even express words for this situation although it usually comes naturally I would reserve those words for privacy lol. Or there we are -------asleep on a Tuesday getting our long needed break and we wake up to find that we are late for work because the electricity failed during the night .

If we are really unlucky the Gas mains has gone because some plonka down the road busted a pipe and it will take the best of 30hrs to fix it . No heating , for some - no cooking , and a complete inconvenience buggers up the daily routine . Hooray the kids say "Kentucky time" or "Macy Ds" . We might think that yes its about time we had a treat so we pop out for a quick takeaway or something like that .
Deep down we know its something that we couldn't do for a few days in a row , so we begin to think of others ways to get things like
Cooking , washing , heating -------in the house back to normal until the mains has been fixed . So from time to time if we are lucky enough to have a mobile or a land line we ring the Gas or electric company hoping for some joy .
Eventually it comes on and we smile our heads off and do as much washing , check the freezers , alarm clocks , heating settings etc , and it all gets back to normal .

And some folk think that this small inconvenience is a pain in the Ass , yet when we compare this situation to something like the UK Hampshire ( London ) floods that flooded many homes and left thousands with out
clean water / heating / electric / sewage polluted the streets and homes and nearly every family soon found them self
Hungry . thirsty , COLD , and gasping for some type of light source at night . even a simple thing like a cup of tea was out of the question .
Mothers and fathers of babies were angry at the government because they hadn't delivered aid soon enough and if you live in a flood location you will know what it feels like to watch your kids get thirsty , hungry , and have nothing to do .

yet , you would think that floods don't happen often and since you may not live in a flood area that this topic does not concern you .
I will kindly ask you if you do to read on because im just beginning to enjoy the encore because we haven't covered the other factor .

bad winters are a real pain . If we get the right circumstances for a bad winter here in the UK , everything can fail .
Gas , electric , water , and if we have deep snow or bad storms , we know damned well people begin to panic bye ( hauding ) the shops stay shut and then its all gone wrong .
being unable to drive to the local Tesco,s or Asda , we are forced to try local shops in an effort to feed our children , many of us know this story and that goes with out saying .

So after all this consideration what on earth can a good loving concerned parent do to ensure the health , safety and well being od their children do ?

Well if I was to tell you that like most loving parents I too missed this very important topic out .
Not because of ignorance but mainly that I had just not considered it because I thought I was always going to be fine and my children would never be affected and luckily for us the year I had made sure that I had done something about it was the very year that so many people in our village payed the price for not considering these ideas for what ever reasons they had . And yes , you know what village life is like , chatter chatter chatter and wow , the excuses I heard was like an Everest that never ended yet there I was all comfy , pleased and relaxed with the knowledge that my family had nothing to stress about .

Well , after things like making
fire escape plans
testing the smoke alarm
making sure the car is safe to run ( paying for it )
maintaining the safety of the house
shopping for food each week
and if you live in a flood area -- safety measures made to ensure some type of small relief emergency plan is in place
what on earth may you have missed out ?
what on earth could be so valuable , so important , that Tracker has gone on the march again to warn me about and help me ( you ) make sure that for many situations a small time , effort , energy and thought can save us from some kind of unforeseen situation that can happen anytime with out warning ?

Well I am going to tell you good folk guardians of the small people ( children ) lol.

Its called

THE 3 WEEK PLAN !

what ? --------------WTF is a 3 week plan Tracker ?
Well Im not going to tell ya so suffer .--------------------not really --only joking lol.

The 3 week plan is a safety measure for all the family that eases the stresses and strains of unforeseen circumstances so that no matter what situation may occur , you and your family still have the following means ;
heating ; light , heated water , cooked food , a reliable alarm clock for those early morning calls , and a few more goodies in the Tracker bag , lol.

Im going to show you a valuable list of small and cheap goodies that can completely turn those situations named above around from a stressful event into a pleasurable , adventurous enlightening experience .

I will do my best to show prices but they do vary and it will not tax your income heavily because what we don't want to do is to "HAUD" by mass buying or panic buying when its too late .
Such is th lessons we learned during the petrol shortages when millions went out and "hauded" through panic buying masses amounts of petrol putting all petrol stations on rations .
The same has happened to bread and things a like so before we embark on this idea I am asking you not to haud , by mass buying everything at once .

I will admit those that say that preparing is unnecessary and that it is "hauding" are liers and contradictory hypocrites because those people are the ones who do nothing unless the SHTF and then go out on panic buying and "HAUDING" AS MUCH as they can which then creates shortages , inconveniences for many others and just completely messes up everything , so don't listen to them .
I wonder if those of the Hampshire floods would have felt it was a good thing NOT to prepare for such an event
or those in Devon
soo may Scotland
Folkestone too , and that place was as safe as houses and it had a small earth quake too in 2007 .
So lets understand that ------------buying the ODD small goody here and there is not hauding !
It allows for others to buy those goods / doesnt place strain on the shops / and also does not make a big hole in the pocket when we do this .

Its not fear mongering -------Im hardly dishing out world ending scenarios or swine flu panic , rape stories or political upheaval with out a remedy for such stress am I ? I don't think so . I hope you don't either .

The 3 week plan is a means of slowly but surely gathering the right equipment and goodies that cover a wide range of abilities that can keep your family's health and well being at an acceptable level of normality should any situation arise .
If you adopt the 3 week plan , like one does for the fire escape , checking the motor , checking the smoke alarm , you will find your self never regretting it and the only time you might feel slightly sorry is when you see others who have refused to prepare or who did not consider such things and are then standing near you telling you their sorry story .
But then if that comes true , you could tell them what you did and why you are almost unaffected in the same way .

What I sometimes ask my self is this
I wonder if any of those hurricane Catrina or those of the Hampshire floods --------have actually learned form their experiences because stats have it ----------that sadly they will not learn even after going through such events yet will still be very happy to blame the governments for their own mistakes , and we have to admit , people like that are truly sad , not because they didn't know how to prepare , but because after going through such a thing , one would have thought that they would learn to take their life in their own hands and accept personal responsability over them self and their children's , yet many will not --------------and thats what is so sad .

So what small way can you create a good 3 week safety buffer to help protect you and your small people ?

STARTING UP !

the 1st most important thing
This might come as a shock folks but the most top important thing in my opinion is to buy your self a pack of 100 or 200 tea light candles .
CANDLES ! --------------please don't skip this section of why candles are important because there is more to candles than you might think .
they cost about £1.99 and vary from place to place . i have found that in Tescos they only sell them in 50s for about £1.99 ---so you will have to take note the next time your out because there are bteer deals out there .
Why the "Tea light" candles ?
because they can also be used for cooking / heating the house / sterilisation and of course we cant forget light .

This idea has to be coupled with another Tracker goody . the outdoor fold up ( cheap ) fire fuel camping stove . £4.99 from most camping shops .

I will show you how this works but it will make a better easier way to read it if I now make a small list and explain how this is done .

before I do just remember ---the list will contain totals . What i mean by totals is the final amount of things listed that you should have over a period of a few months because if you do this calmly , collectively --don't panic bye ( hauding ) it can be a pleasurable and easily maintained experience .
SO ---remember --------you don't have to bye those quantities all at once ! get them a couple at a time , bit by bit and after about 12 months , you would have completed the 3 week plan --------thats how ------none hauding -------least stressful way you can achieve this great way to stay safe and happy in most circumstances with no worries .


Dont forget ---only a max of 3 items per week ----------but 2 items will suffice .
Within the 1st month you would have already gathered a limited plan that can help relief stress and strains ----thats how quick this stuff can work .

list 1
1 ) 10 x ( 1 bag ) of 100 tealight candles .(= £1.99 per bag , best at asda )
2 ) 1 x out door portable fire lighter folding stove ( = £4.99 )
3 ) 1 x large flat oven tray ( = £3.99 )
4 ) 1 x wind up radio . ( costs vary from £7 to £30 , get what you pay for )
5 ) 1 x wind up torch ( £10 or less )
6 ) 1 x 1st aid kit ( costs vary from £5.99 to £50 )
7 ) 1 x water filter ( costs vary mostly in tescos /asda and super stores £10 max )
8 ) 1 x large plastic ground sheet ( costs £10 from good camping stores or get a large plastic heating from B&Q same costs )
9 ) 1 x little bottle of water purification liquid ( iodine 280 litres csts £8.99 )
10 ) 4 x neutralising tablets . ( each box costs £4.99 for 75 litres worth so you may ned a few to compensate for the 280 litres of iodine liquid )
11 ) 1 x porta potty . ( costs vary but the best costs £50 . totally sealed even when emptying makes safe for transporting to empty unlike many caravan loos or porta loos on sites )
12 ) a 1st aid kit .

list 2
this next list gives some advice on various uses of these products .

item 1 )
tea light candles .
if you have a medium sized living-room did you know it only takes 15 tealight candles to heat that room ? in one hour you'll be taking off your pullovers.
yes only 15 candles . they can last up to 6 hours and can also be used for cooking too aswell as light and heating . the light and heating from these candles happens at the same time , however , we now get to the cooking .

item 2 )
out door portable fuel block camping stove
follow this carefully !
take out the fire lighter fuel blocks and keep them high up out of reach from children .
( now ? in normal out door camping or cooking on these small trays , the stove is unfolded , to which two flat side legs unfold . normally these legs would be on the ground in open air with the fuel blocks placed underneath the tray shelf .but not in this case )
in this case , as mentioned don't use fire lighter fuel blocks , put the away safely .i will now give you a step by step guide to use candles for cooking in emergency situations

item 3 .
large flat oven tray . --------------important !
how t use for cooking with tea light candles and camper stove .
step 1 .
place in a safe place in the kitchen only , good practice will have you put the large flat oven tray ( item 3 ) ontop of your cooker far away from certain , flammable materials , picture frames etc , best place is on cooker using the 4 rings on your cooker for support .

step 2 .
unfold stove and place fuel blocks away somewhere safe .

step 3
place 5 tealight candles on top of the portable camping stove tray . on top , not beneath the camping stove grid shelf . this gives the candles direct contact to pan or pot on top for an efficient heating temperature .

step 4
open windows . i say this because in normal circumstances tea light candles don't make much sooty smoke , but it will make sooty smoke as soon as the flame hits an object . the object being your pot , so yes , sootting will happen so please keep windows open . ( don't want smoke alarms going off )

step 5
lite the 5 tealight candles .

step 6
place pot or an over the candles .

1 litre of water heats in less than 6 mins .

the oven tray is used in case candles leek or food spills etc . it also helps keep the heat away from touching surfaces . its just an extra safety precaution .


item 4 )
wind up radio . always useful fo news durin blackouts .

item 5 )
wind up torch . always useful during black outs .

item 6 )
1st aid kit . technically , you should always have one anyway . try to get one that has eye drops with it or buy eye drops seperatly if you have too .
.
item 7 )
a normal britvic water filter should serfice . handy to get extra filters just in case as they do run out of their integrity after time .

item 8 )
large plastic ground sheet .
handy to suspend in the garden to collect rain water i needed .
this then can be used in conjunction with your filter nd then to sterilise it , boil the water.

item 9 )
little bottle of water purification liquid .
only use his method in Dir emergencies only . only ! use in conjunction with

item 10 )
neutralising tablets . again use with item 9 only in an emergency situation life or death stuff .

item 11 )
porta potty .
just in case a hard winter sets in .
these porta potties are fab . they are totally cieled and offer a safer way to get rid of waist with out creating a foil smell . because they are cieled , it also makes it great to transpor to a safe desposable site .
remember , a bad winter can stop all ater flow and waist flows at times .
hence, if you have one of these , your health and safety stay tops .
cleaning fluids and fragrences costs vary from £5.99 to £10.99 per bottle .
dont forget loo role !

item 12 )
the best 1st aid kits are home made do it your self essemblies but if you feel the need to get one already made then that should atleast do . However there is now harm on enhancing it . Mine has things like spray plasters , germaline , finger bandages ----you know , things you dont often get in them .

finally
Dont forget as you go ----------get the odd extra tin of food in per week . again this is not hawding if you do it bit by bit .
Things like
tinned fish
meat
fruit
beans ( beans are good tummy fillers )
vary it as much as possible as a good diet has a varied suplimented diet and bobs ya uncle .


list 3

dooos and donts !

Dont ever ever leave children alone in a room fr even a minuit if you have candles on .
I cannot stress this enough .
if you need the loo , take them with you or leave an adult with them . this danger speaks for it self as we all know , children love candles and also love to play . so keep that in mind at all times .

always place each tea light candle in a saucer or dish just in case they do leek .
i have only come across one that does in all my time but its a safety measure .
do no place candles near curtains , picture frames or other flamable materials .do not put candles on tvs , or low places where children can touch .

dont use water sterilising tablets on water for babies or young children .
it can be unhealthy as the packets or bottles do state , do not use fo long runs of time as this can harm your health .
like i said , the sterilising fluids and nuetralising tablets are an ultimate life or death last resort .
remember
they could harm baby ! i just dont know and wouldnt chance it my self .

please remember that your personal health and safety is up to you .
i have only given tips for extreme bad situations .





Well it seems like a large list if you are looking upon it as though you have to get it all in one or two weeks .

REMEMBER !
All you have to do is get one or two items per week and by week 6 or 7 you would have already made a limited amenity to ensure some type of releif -----so dont panic bye ( haud) , because thats wrong .

If you have desided that you wish to engage your self on this idea guess what you have inadvertanly considered being ?

An urban survivalist !

YES ITS TRUE -------IF YOU ARE SERIOUSELY THINKING OF DOING THIS ----- for what ever reasons -------you have become an enthusiastic beginner Urban survivalist .

So many people have a strange reaction to the term "survivalist" because of the dogma given so much over the internet utube etc .
We have to remember that ray Mears is a survivalist ----and he isnt strange or wierd .
Survivalism is a harmless and essential means of knowing how to cope in many situations .
It has nothing to do with
being a rambo !
being in some kind of gorrillar group to fight with guns
has nothing to do with combat
has nothing to do with training to fight the governments or NWO !

the only sad thing is that so many people do mix the those subjects with survilalism and it is giving it a bad dogmatic labbel making people fear the subject so that they dont even consider the ideas because of what dangers it sems to represent .

Ok fine -----yes one might have to defend ones self one day
one might have to ----------------go roughing it
one might have to ----------do some stuff

BUT this isnt about that , survivalism doesnt have to invlove hurting folks and carrying guns etc . forget those folks because to me they may have some fantastic knowledge but their hardlined malitia phylosophies frighten the hell out of me lol.

So --------------now that you know the facts ------------------- are you going to take that step ?

does thinking that now you may have become an urban survivalist ----------frighten you ?

or are you seeing the plain and natural truth ------------------?
that any loving concerned parent would make atleast a couple of small preps just in case ?

the chioce my fellow good human small people guardian -------------is yours

and yours alone !

How abou this then just to add that littlebit of humar and mystery before I go .

Its called

THE VILLAGE THAT SHOCKED THE NATION !

Imagine a county , a region of the UK , it could be anywhere , it doesn matter where , just put one in the head for now .
Its been hard raining , flood warnings are out /It could be a hurricane ( weve had them too ) or a bad winter , what ever the situation make it real to a past event . Some times on TV we have seen that electric has been out for 3 weeks or so ---so mkae this region about 2 and a half weeks in this hyperthetical situation -----that can and does happen .

For a few days now people are screaming and chanting the government for not supplying aid soon enough .
people are complaining about not having clean drinking water
No food
No heating
Nolight .
Authorities are panicing , people are complaining --------------YET
By shear accident ---------a news reporter makes his way to a small village ------------where not a soul is in sight .
the reporter makes comments about what a gohst town it seems and shows wierd and wonderful angles on the camera on empty streets until he sees someone hanging out the washing on a pole from the top window .

the reporter makes his way to this person and asks him
"How aare you coping with this situation ? ---are you happy with the governments help ? Do you think that they shoul do more "

the person repplies

"Hold on hold on ! why do we need governments help ? what you think Im that silly I havent protected my family from all this ? your off your rocka ! why would I place my life in some one elses hands ? No NO No -----thats my responsability ! Look Ive got to go because the dinner is on , the kids are hungry and want some scoff , theyve been playing baord games for hours and now want to play pirates in the flod water ------kids who'd havem ?"

The reporter asks
"well where is every one else in the village then ?"

the man says
"well knock their doors , Im sure they will help you if they can but they are probably having fun or reading a book in the warm homes they have , whats your problem dude ? why dont you work for a living and stop spreading fear and start to do something with ya sorry self and show folks hwo to safe guard them selves and their famileis so that the chaos down the road doesnt keep taking control of folks lives ?"




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can you imagine a just how gobs macked this Uk nation would be ?
bloody gob smacked !
You would never hear the last of it .

it would be on the news for weeks
government departments would cash in on the idea because of reactions
shops would go premotion mad
people would slowly wake up to their slumbering sleep and finally find ----------if but a small peace --------of independance for them self .




and all because ? ( a lady loves milk tray ) a tiny village desided to take their own health and safety and children well being in their own hands and took a stand for a small piece of independance from rellying on the system by slow but surely preparing them self for such an occasion .

BUT

A while after that there would be a strange "STILL" in the air wouldn't there .

Because something as small as this would have--- if but for a moment-- shown a complete nation some independance !

sometimes the biggest of revolutions come from the smallest of equasions made at the bottom of the sum and something as silly and apparently insignificant like this ---can bring about the biggest of changes


Sometimes the road to freedom can come from some strange paths indeed . if not for the nation ------it can do for the individual or --------------a family .


Now I aks you the reader -------have your hairs on your arms stood on end reading that ?
there is a good reason why I ask this too .
because IF they have ------------this is your bodies language to your mind . its called instinct !
this language is a way that your body tries to tell your mind ----------that this dude is right , and is also trying to tell you something that you are at this moment unaware of .
But I will pull it out for you .
Its trying to say

LEST DO THIS !
I WANT TO DO THIS !

I'M GOING TO DO THIS !

So now its up to you !

Hope you have enjoyed this thread and with all the best wishes , I wish you and your family all the best , good health and safety and may you enjoy your lives in a prosperouse and fun loving manner .

should you wish to improve your knowledge or find that you wish to quench some inquisative feelings -----you can always visit this thread .
.-------------
all links are labbelled and put into easy to get at sections for your leasure .It covers many areas --------some that you may wish to skip , others that may tickle ya fancy .
enjoy .

Its called
Ultimate thread of threads/survivalism
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=89528


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Post Re: The loving concerned parent
It has been said that America and The U.K. are sister nations divided by a common language.
This post proves it. Took me a while to figure out what haud is. Even my spell checker dosen't recognize it as a word. The scotch idiom is hard wading for a poor soul educated in an appalachian school. But this spell checker thinks I spelled that wrong too. GRRR technology.


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Post Re: The loving concerned parent
this would be a good time to reread this post, and get a flavor of what is in store here, IMO,
OP is Scottish,
and Haud means hoard, as close as I can figure


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