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Petraeus: Quran Burning Could Endanger US Troops
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Post Petraeus: Quran Burning Could Endanger US Troops
(Sept. 6) -- Throughout history, whenever books have been set on fire, passions have been unleashed.

In Gainesville, Fla., a pastor's plan to hold a public burning of Qurans to mark the ninth anniversary of the 9/11 terrorist attacks has already set off angry protests from Afghanistan to Indonesia and elicited a formal response from the U.S. Embassy condemning the plan. Now, the book burning has another high-profile foe: Gen. David Petraeus, the commander of American forces fighting in that country.


http://www.aolnews.com/surge-desk/artic ... s/19622613

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Tue Sep 07, 2010 7:56 am
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Post Re: Petraeus: Quran Burning Could Endanger US Troops
I also think it is just not a good idea to ever burn the religious symbols of other people. America is supposed to be a place where people are free to worship anything or nothing as they choose too. That does not mean anyone else has to except that view and they are free to disagree in public as much as they like.

But burning someone's holy book, especially of a major world religion, does not strike me as helpful. The more so because US troops may be flighting someone people who follow this religion, but they are also fighting BESIDE other members of it.

This may be legal, but it may not be a wise form of protest.


Tue Sep 07, 2010 11:20 am
Post Re: Petraeus: Quran Burning Could Endanger US Troops
it won't be helpful. might make a few people feel better but the end result? Disaterous. Lets put it this way. How would you like it if someone was burning copies of the bible? my2


Tue Sep 07, 2010 8:49 pm
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Post Re: Petraeus: Quran Burning Could Endanger US Troops
Although I believe that the burning of Qurans should be done, I believe they should be burned in private, not in public where muslums would find out. It would only further flip out the mentally unstable members of this dangerous cult, which serves no useful purpose.

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Tue Sep 07, 2010 9:24 pm
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Post Re: Petraeus: Quran Burning Could Endanger US Troops
Here is a commercial in youtube about the burning of the quran

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdtFk_V6 ... _embedded#!

Its pretty weird,so take it with a grain of salt....

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Wed Sep 08, 2010 4:32 am
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Post Re: Petraeus: Quran Burning Could Endanger US Troops
Why is it we have to worry about hurting Muslim feelings? They sure as hell don't seem to be really upset about hurting ours. Before I get my boxer shorts in a wad about their hurt feelings, maybe they'd like to apologize for a couple of things that have hurt my sensibilities...


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Wed Sep 08, 2010 11:12 am
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Yes, and this.

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Wed Sep 08, 2010 3:41 pm
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Post Re: Petraeus: Quran Burning Could Endanger US Troops
so ... no one ever gareunteed a person the right not to be offended,

but the burning of a religions holy books is a needless escaltion. An escaltion that has no purpose. We have better things to do then be stuck on stupid.


Wed Sep 08, 2010 4:03 pm
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Post POP QUIZ-
OK- do you think that if this guy calls off the book-burning, the muslums will renounce the use of terrorism ?
A -Yes, or
B- No

Now, if you answered that question honestly, answer this -

If he goes ahead and burns some qurans, what will be the muslum response ?
A- The muslums will burn some Bibles and protest.
B- Some people are going to get murdered.

Now, if you answered that one, answer this-
If muslums commit some murders in response, what will be the non-muslum response ?
A- blame the murderers.
B- blame the victims.
C- blame America and Israel.
D- blame Bush//Cheney
E- blame this preacher.

Essay question-
NOW who is "stuck on stupid" ?

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Wed Sep 08, 2010 7:49 pm
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lol

If you think i am in favor of the islamic religion you haven't read very many of my posts.( and i am under no illusion that you believe so, we know each other better then that))

I just see this book burning as a no win proposition. this will do nothing but inflame. This will do nothing but create further propaganda for the radicals to use.

Who is stuck on stupid? Anyone who see's this as a winning strategy.


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Post Re: Petraeus: Quran Burning Could Endanger US Troops
This is dated June 18 2007

Christians in Gaza Fear for Their Lives as Muslims Burn Bibles and Destroy Crosses
http://www.associatedcontent.com/articl ... html?cat=9

and this is something muslims continue to do, you don't hear Christians proclaiming Holy War on them for this...my opinion on this is don't dish it out if you can't take it...

and if you really want to think about this, then who is really behind all of this..the preacher proclaims God told him to do this...and you know if God has called you to do somthing..well best you do it...

on the other hand who is making the mass spectical out of this..the media..a small church with only a few members starts a war...

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I don’t think it’s a matter of “is it coming.” I think that it’s already here, it’s just a matter of perspective. From one perspective, our frog friends are telling us that we should be grateful that the “spa” is hot and luxurious. From the cook’s perspective… another 10 minutes and we’ll be dinner.


Wed Sep 08, 2010 8:56 pm
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Post Re: Petraeus: Quran Burning Could Endanger US Troops
No, it is just silly. But his right to do it.
I didn't think that you supported the muslums.

Question-
Where are all the (liberal)people who said "I disagree with burning the U.S. flag- but it is UN-AMERICAN to stop them from burning it."


Just asking.

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Wed Sep 08, 2010 8:59 pm
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might be his right to do so but that doesn't make it right. or even the right thing to do.


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Post Who Is Pastor Terry Jones, and Why Is he Burning the Koran?
http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/09/08 ... the-koran/
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Pastor Terry Jones sure seems like an unlikely fellow to become America's most inconvenient man.
A grizzled 58-year-old who packs a .40-caliber pistol, Jones heads a small congregation -- maybe 50 members -- in Gainesville, Fla. The Dove World Outreach Center, as the church is known, is in fact the kind of local, spirit-filled, Pentecostal-style church that is found in cities and rural areas across America, and have been since the earliest days of the Republic.
Jones' mission to burn copies of the Koran to mark the 9/11 anniversary this Saturday has managed to dominate the news and global politics even in a media cycle already ablaze with suspicions that Obama is a Muslim and that jihadis are building a victory mosque at ground zero.
Jones believes that Islam is a false religion that is of the devil and must be defeated. Islam, he believes, is also threatening to take over in the United States. Hence his justification, reiterated earlier this week, for the Koran-burning: "We must send a clear message to the radical element of Islam," Jones said. " We will no longer be controlled and dominated by their fears and threats. It is time for America to return to being America."
Gen. David Petraeus, the U.S. and NATO commander in Afghanistan, this week said the plans by the Dove World Outreach Center to burn 200 copies of the Koran could endanger U.S. troops and Americans worldwide. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton called the proposed book burning disrespectful and disgraceful at an iftar dinner for Muslims ending their daily Ramadan fast. And Attorney General Eric Holder called Jones' plan idiotic and dangerous.
Even Angelina Jolie weighed in. Jolie is a goodwill ambassador for the U.N.'s refugee agency.
An effigy of Jones was burned in Afghanistan, and Muslims in Indonesia have rallied outside the U.S. embassy threatening violence.
A growing number of Christian leaders are also raising their voices.
The Dove Center says that it cultivates "a conscious, deliberate effort during worship to change the spiritual world." The Spirit blows where it will, and recognizes no race or social class. That is why Pentecostal-style churches are among the most racially integrated in American Christianity, and why they are also among the most economically egalitarian.
Asked about his knowledge of the Koran, Pastor Jones told The New York Times: "I have no experience with it whatsoever. I only know what the Bible says."
During a recent sermon Jones also voiced disgust at the spiritual bona fides of the United Methodist Church a few blocks away that is planning an an interfaith prayer service on Sept. 10. "Lily-livered, yellow-bellied Christians". "Our nation is in ruin spiritually."
A few decades ago, evangelicals and fundamentalist Christians in particular were cultural isolationists who wanted nothing to do with the wider society, which they felt was lost and would only taint them spiritually if they engaged it.
Now these conservative Christians are front and center in politics and in some of the sharper clashes of the culture wars. A few congregations, like the Dove Center and its allies in the Westboro Baptist cult of the Fred Phelps' clan, are considered fringe elements. But they follow in some of the same patterns as their mainstream brethren, only more so.
For instance, a belief that we are living in the "End Times" before Jesus comes again to deliver the saved from a fallen world fuels their urgent proselytizing and their crusading against favorite evils like homosexuality.
During a mayoral run-off in Gainesville last April, Terry Jones and the Dove World Outreach Center put up a sign on the property reading, "No homo mayor," and Jones denounced the candidate, Craig Lowe, in a video. "We've got us a homo mayor, with of course a homo agenda." (Lowe won anyway.)
Islam in its extremist forms is another great concern for many Christians, though fighting Islam in all its forms has become a veritable obsession for Terry Jones. Jones and the Dove Center first drew coverage a year ago when some members sent their children to area schools with t-shirts emblazoned with the church's motto, "Islam is of the Devil." The children were sent home by school authorities, and media coverage followed.
But in the final analysis, the zeal of Terry Jones -- as so often happens -- is in danger of turning him into the very thing he hates, a religious extremist who risks tarnishing the reputation of the rest of his fellow believers.
"As of right now, we are not backing down," Terry Jones told NBC on Wednesday.
But, he added, "If God told us to do it" -- burn the Korans -- "then I guess he could tell us to do something different."

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